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Senate One Vote From Passing DREAM Act

Supporter of the DREAM Act

The US Senate is reportedly one vote away from passing cloture for the so-called DREAM Act, which would allow a path towards citizenship for millions of illegals if the attend colleges or serve in the military.

The bill passed the House during a late-night session last week with a vote of 216-198. It was then shelved by Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid after Republicans threatened to filibuster any legislation not related to the Bush tax cuts.

It is believed the single vote belongs to Massachusetts Republican Scott Brown, who has disappointed many in the GOP with his RINO-like votes since getting into office. The Associated Press reports a coalition of left-wing educators, religious leaders and advocates are making last-ditch efforts to pressure Brown into voting for the legislation.

The bill also contains the line allowing Janet Napolitano to arbitrarily waive any and all provisions and grant mass Amnesty to about every illegal alien in America if she or her successor wants to:

“(2) WAIVER- With respect to any benefit under this Act, the Secretary of Homeland Security may waive the ground of inadmissibility under paragraph (1), (4), or (6) of section 212(a) of the Immigration and Nationality Act (8 U.S.C. 1182(a)) and the ground of deportability under paragraph (1) of section 237(a) of that Act (8 U.S.C. 1227(a)) for humanitarian purposes or family unity or when it is otherwise in the public interest.”

Newt Gingrich

Grass-roots conservatives were stunned to hear former House Speaker Newt Gingrich support the two main tenants of the DREAM Act during an interview on the Laura Ingraham Show at the beginning of the month.

The story is being under-reported or being ignored by not only the mainstream media but conservative outlets as well, as focus on the Wikileaks Cablegate scandal and political drama surrounding the Bush tax cuts takes center stage.

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  1. Philoctetes says

    DREAM as in “I have a dream”. @Martin Luther Coon: Your dream was my nightmare”!!

    • raingirl2 says

      Philoctetes you are a moron Martin Luther King was a great man too bad you are such a bigot. every knee shall bow and every tongue confess what will you have to say for yourself when the bell of eternity tolls for you.

      • john says

        raingirl, YOU are the moron. mlk [and remember, that wasnt even his name] was the bigot. As well as puppet of the communists, whoremongerer, plagiariser, misogynist , and antiChrist. It is YOU who needs to rethink, look at facts and repent.

    • win says

      MLK wasn’t perfect, but he wasn’t all that bad either. In the sense that his dream was equal opportunity for all without regard to color, it was not a nightmare. That dream has been twisted into a nightmare by political correctness and excuses for peoples own irresponsiblity for their behavior, an acceptance of behavior that should be criticized, and an intolerance of any ideals that speak out against the problems of multiculturism as we practice it.

  2. pablo says

    So are they voting now

  3. Mallory says

    when are they going to vote again?? does anyone know?? I hope and pray this passes!!

  4. Gilberto ramos says

    The only think I can say to you people:Have Faith in to the last moment.GAD BLESS AMERICA”

  5. VincentTolbert says

    I was against the dream act until I saw this video. My heart just dropped.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ukeH99GPMhg

    • win says

      Durbin yammering away made your heart drop?

      Not exactly how I’d describe how he makes me feel, and I voted for him since I live in Illinois.

      Not voting for him in 2012 though, and the Dream Act is one of many reasons.

  6. Vickie says

    This country cannot stand another blow from these criminal/welfare hordes overrunning us.

  7. richie says

    are they voting right now?

  8. molly/ky says

    ^^^I saw that video and I was quite sad to see their situation. I guess most of us don’t understand since we are not in their shoes. I was just thinking what if I was brought to this country when i was a toddler? and everybody wanted me to go back to a country that I do not know of anymore. It very sad! I hope the bill passes. If it does pass I encourage these kids not to sponsor their parents who put them in this situation to begin with.

  9. none says

    I’m all for it. These people are the cream of the crop, and their active participating presence will only build and enhance the nations.

    And of course we need new troops!

    • someone else says

      FYI – the military is not hiring, they are actually turing people away as we decrease our size.

      • win says

        Reports say only a sliver would get into the military anyhow, most would attend collge on our dime instead.

        But with the debt this country has, and the prediction they will be the majority in time, I guess it will be them paying the debt, not us.

        Dream Act passes, I’m going to tell Congress to keep spending big. Let them get an even bigger bill in 30 years.

  10. raingirl2 says

    the passage of the Horror act for 30 mil illegal aliens is the end of dreams for 300 million Americans. There will be civil disobediance in this country just like what’s happening across the pond.

    • DBAPS says

      You comment is ignorant and uneducated, the dream act will help about 800,000 STUDENTS.

  11. Stan the American Man says

    While American Citizens live in the street, starve and can’t find a job, Democrats push a Voter Regisration Act by passing the dream act….disgusting! NEWT SHAME ON YOU!

    • Joe Wittman says

      why are they living i. the streets!?its because they dont wanna work hard thats y.. they dont want to work.. wb
      hy else.. cause many became drug addicts..

    • mj says

      says nothing about it

  12. JT Bacaj says

    I don’t understand why people are so upset with this?

    This is good for our country I mean I’m not surprised Newt supports it as did Bush, it makes sense when you think about it. Your taking college graduates who usually get find jobs pay taxes some may even open up Buisnesses and maybe create jobs. The rest will join our military and if they don’t meet those requirments or do sonething criminal they are deported.

    What’s wrong with that? Nothing that’s why most Americans support it. It seems though that the opponents are very loud and making alot of noise without much real logic behind their argument.

    You can’t say this is amnesty because amnesty means forging people and any logical person understands you can’t blame kids for the sins of their parents or let’s face it alot of our own kids would be condemned to hell.

    • someone else says

      “college graduates” – the bill doesn’t say they “have” to graduate.
      Entering or staying past due is a criminal misdemeanor. Obtain false documentation is a criminal felony. The all did the first and I’m sure many have done the second as well.

      • Joe Wittman says

        but they only obtain a temporary residency.. if they dont go to college or enroll in military for 2 yrs at least.. their temporary residency expires and tuey get deported.. read right my friend

    • win says

      It isn’t a sin, its a law. The children continued to break it when they had a choice, and many of those children are not integrated and are not the “cream” of the crop.

      Given our society already has shown its failure to our own children with their lack of opportunity, chance at a good education, it is irresponsible to have more.

      You know, like a women chooses not to have more children when she can’t feed the ones she already has.

  13. marla says

    it is amazing what is happening those student sriving for success deserve a chance for citizenship, although they came here illegally the have learned the culture of americans and WILL help their country if the country could help them

  14. Philoctetes says

    Me llamo es “MIL MASCARAS” de la LUCHA LIBRE!!

  15. raingirl2 says

    Scott Brown might well be the only senator or Rep left standing if the dream act passes. all supporters will be ousted. He will have earned the loyalty and vote of the people. All of the other talking heads who pretend to oppose the dream act and vote for its passage will loose all creditability and will suffer in elections in the future until every one is replaced. How can this country address the deficit while dragging 30 million unskilled poor people onto our rolls of the unemployed Americans. Our economic structure will NEVER recover as long as we stick our heads in the sand and pretend that these illegal aliens are not a drain on our already strained economy. This government never include the burden of these 30 million when adding the numbers. Amnesty is political suicide for the politicians and the death of all dreams for the poor and middle class Americans. How sad.

    • Bibi says

      OMG… How ignorant can you get? Can you please educate yourself at least a little and stop spewing hateful crap! “Dragging 30 million unskilled poor people onto our rolls of the unemployed Americans”? Really? Because ’30′ million immigrants do not work already and actually help the economy? Because the ‘legal’ citizens of the United States that are collecting millions and millions every month in unemployment benefits, welfare and such are not the ones dragging the country? I am sorry Raingirl2 that you are so ignorant that you FORGET that the UNITED STATES was built by IMMIGRANTS!!! Do you also know that the number of illegal immigrants include those who have come here legally and overstayed their visas? And that they include people from ALL OVER THE WORLD!, not just the ignorant image you have of the poor, uneducated Mexican who crosses the border and works as a gardener! Are you just so insecure about your own abilities that you have to hate those who may be smarter/harder working than you? And before anyone goes off, on the “ILLEGAL” aspect of it, just take a minute and remember that MILLIONS of people have come here illegally during the history of this country!!! Or what, do you think the Indians gave visas to those in the Mayflower?! This is just another time in history that this country is taking its bigotry out on a group of individuals, which are now the Latinos, the face of illegal immigration. But lets not forget that not too long ago Japanese immigrants were put in camps out on the West Coast. I am sorry, but if you are smart, driven and hard working you should not have a worry about competing with an immigrant…. illegal or not.

  16. lucas says

    what time is the senate dream act vote

  17. Caroline says

    I am white, from West Virginia, and really have no horse in this race… EXCEPT the fact that I would be ASHAMED to live in a country where students who work hard and try their best (and who were brought here against their own volition) cannot even have the opportunity of citizenship and education. I would hate to see all these wonderful minds restricted from helping our great Nation because of racist, bigoted law. I will continue to fight for their rights and look forward to the day they rise above close-minded people!

  18. Caroline says

    Thank Goodness for Martin Luther King’s brave work!

  19. panola says

    If this Nightmare Act is approved there will be 2 million less American kids going to college over the next several years because the democrats want to give those slots to illegal aliens.

    However we American citizens do get one thing out of it… the bill. Yup the democrats want the American taxpayer to subsidize their education while cheating our American kids.

    The Nightmare Act has no cap, no end-date and no enforcement. It’s simply a “mass ongoing amnesty”. In the future any foreign family with a school age child can sneak in the country and enroll their child in school to obtain automatic citizenship.

    Why do some democrats hate American kids so much???

    Do not punish innocent American kids because of the criminal actions of illegal aliens.

    • Joe Wittman says

      SHUT THE FUCK UP!! im american.. white whayever u wanna say.. i have never seen so much ignorance greed and selfishness in people like those wjo oppose dream act

  20. klt says

    Every time some vote like this comes up. I am reminded of the innocent woman who was raped and murdered by an illegal. That happened in a park only a few blocks from my home right here in america just a few years ago. And you want more in this country!!! Total insanity!!

    • Gary says

      Kit,
      that is a horrible story indeed, but we cannot begin to punish every illegal for what one did. If that is the case then every man should be punished. Don’t categorize a group of people because of what one or a selected few do.

    • Pam says

      NOT ALL illegals are criminals/murderers/rapists, just like not all white people lynch black people. That’s just plain old common sense.

      There are illegals who are students that bust their tail to get degrees at Harvard and UCLA only to face a compromised future. The main reason for people coming here is to have a better life, a better chance at success. What would you do if you’re job wasn’t working out for you? Would you kill your boss? No right? You would find a better job elsewhere and start fresh anew. In a nut shell, that is what these students did. What’s total insanity to me is ignorant people making crass comments on monumental issues without doing their homework and using simple common sense.

      • NewsGuy says

        What part of ILLEGAL do you not understand?!?

        • Pam says

          To NewsGuy

          Marijuana is ILLEGAL but isn’t it true that this also has medicinal benefits that can actually HELP humans? It helps with cancer, AIDS, multiple sclerosis, chronic pain, glaucoma, epilepsy, and other health conditions. People recognized this and there are continous efforts to legalize it. SAME THING with dream act- People are now also recognizing the talents of students that can HELP contribute to our nation

          This world revolves around constant modifications and changes in order to make it work for the greater benefit of all.

          • NewsGuy says

            That’s stupid logic.

            You do not reward people for breaking the law – and that is what the DREAM Act does. Based on your logic, the next time someone breaks into your house, you should let him sleep on the couch or give him your valuables.

    • Bibi says

      KLT… You are right! So let’s also start hating all the gangsters, black, white, young, old, men and women of the country because they ALSO RAPE AND MURDER PEOPLE!…

      Ignorant people like you are what is wrong with this beautiful country.

    • Joe Wittman says

      i also wont forget how in history .. many .”americans ” white males .. hanged african american people and raped little black girls.. i also wont forget how many immigrants innocent most havr been killed because of racism from the white male.. violence occurs everywhere.. its life

  21. Gary says

    They are already here, I say let make it so they have to pay taxes. We could use the boost to our economy. For those who say they take slot from American born citizen in college, I say, perhaps the problem is your child isn’t studying or working hard enough. There is always going to be someone who does more or better than you or your children, get over it and strive to do, and aspire to achieve more. What their parent’s did wrong is not their faults, why should we blame or penalize them? We could also use the military assistance. I support the Dream Act, as a citizen I too would feel ashamed if this country didn’t do the right thing.

  22. Ronnie Republican says

    Rain Girl you said it and you are exactly right,America cannot afford this bill we cant feed the ones here we dont need any more.

    • Pam says

      To Ronnie Republican and Rain Girl

      “The ones you can’t feed here” are the ones are mooching off the goverment due to their own LACK of determination and hard work. The Dream Act students are the EXCACT OPPOSITE of that. Don’t forget that these students are the same people who caught the eye of lawmakers and President Obama himself to bring CHANGE to their circumstance. And they’ve WORKED for it-going to school, getting the grades, busting their tails. These students are not trying to pass the Dream Act so they can act like sitting ducks and get spoon fed by the government, they’re fighting so they can reap the rewards of their hard work LEGALLY. The fact that the bill got this far is LIVING PROOF that they can hold their own.

  23. Eris Lin says

    These kids have shown COURAGE and turbo DETERMINATION. They have fought and fought and fought for what others simply take for granted. These kids are what I WANT as citizens. It is through no fault of their own that they were brought to a different country. And honestly, does it really matter? Can you really blame a person for migrating to a place when their own territory couldn’t provide? Sounds human to me. The United States itself is STRUCTURED on migrants and their success. Migrants MADE the United States. When did this become so complicated. It is NOT granting amnesty on a silver platter, it is EARNED citizenship, read the bill. It’s new money in circulation, it’s better educated professionals. The department of Homeland Security supports it, Higher Educational Institutions support it, Teachers’ and Professors’ Union support it, The Diocese supports it, OBAMA supports it. Those that think that these kids will “steal” job slots really need to think again. Last time I checked, people got hired based on skill and competency, NOT because someone felt sorry for you because of your skin color/ethnicity. You cannot blame a person for wanting to succeed. You can show these kids what they deserve and what this very country is founded on- that HARD WORK, COURAGE and DETERMINATION will take you far in life. The United States IS their home, they are culturally American and this country has bred them. Allow them to have their “Identity”. PASS THE DREAM ACT!

  24. David says

    They say there will be less americans working and in school, but who is telling them to stop going to school or to compete more. There are many americans out there who dont want to work or go to school either and the jobs they say they cant get is because they dont want to do them. Not all the aliens are the same, just like not all americans are the same. No one can argue and say 100% of Americans are responsible and never commit any crimes, same things with aliens. Would you rather let people be in the country and not be able to identify them or to hold the accountable for any wrongdoing?
    Then there are lawmakers that say aliens will bring in their family once they are citizens, but they can make it that all that can apply for the Dream Act cant bring any family. Some say its a amnesty, look when Ragen made the amnesty, US had a tremendous Boom, and americans would deny a future boom to thier own Country. If it passes then let the nation test it out and if lawmakers dont like it let them take it away. there is nothing wrong with giving something a try. If you were in dying need and an alien saved your life you would not care where they were from. Do not be afraid of a liitle competition in the workforce or school. And i bet the people that write that there will be no jobs for them or school are the first ones that dont want to work or study hard.

  25. Pam says

    I agree with the comments posted by Eris Lin and David. If you feel that they will “steal job slots” from you, you need to brush up on your education and step up your game.

    • NewsGuy says

      I hope you get replaced by one of those “hard working” illegals. Soon.

      • Danny says

        Well then Newsguy, let’s hope you do too…

        • NewsGuy says

          I wouldn’t. I’d kick the bastard out of my house! And you would, too.

          • Jeff says

            Myth: The DREAM Act uses taxpayer dollars for scholarships and grants to undocumented students.

            Fact: The DREAM Act states that undocumented youth adjusting to lawful permanent resident status are only eligible for federal student loans (which must be paid back), and federal work-study programs, where they must work for any benefit they receive. They are not eligible for federal grants, such as Pell Grants.

            Myth: The DREAM Act allows undocumented students to pay cheaper tuition than citizens.

            Fact: The DREAM Act gives states the option to offer in-state tuition to students registered under DREAM, but it does NOT guarantee cheaper tuition. At most, the DREAM Act allows undocumented students to access the same benefits as their peers. The DREAM Act allows undocumented students to access in-state tuition, but only if they would otherwise qualify for such tuition, and if state law permits undocumented students to receive in-state tuition.

            Myth: The DREAM Act gives undocumented students and their families access to public benefits.

            Fact: DREAM Act students receive no special benefits and are subject to the same public benefits eligibility requirements as other legal immigrants. This means that DREAM Act students and families are NOT immediately eligible for Supplemental Security Income, food stamps, Temporary Assistance for Needy Families, Medicaid (other than emergency care), and numerous other federal benefit programs. In general, a person must be here as a lawful permanent resident for five years before they receive non-emergency federal assistance.

            Myth: The DREAM Act will result in a mass amnesty.

            Fact: The DREAM Act is not an amnesty. No one will automatically receive a green card. To legalize, individuals have to meet stringent eligibility criteria: they must have entered the United States before age 16; must have been here for five years or more; must not have committed any major crimes; must graduate from high school or the equivalent; and must complete at least two years of college or military service. Eligible students must first obtain conditional residency and complete the requirements before they can obtain a green card—a process that will take years. Not all immigrants who came as young children will be eligible to legalize because they will not meet some of these requirements.

            Myth: The DREAM Act will spur more illegal immigration because it rewards undocumented youth.

            Fact: Programs like the DREAM Act, which have clear cut-off dates, offer no incentives for more illegal immigration. In order to qualify for the DREAM Act, a student must have entered the United States before the age of 16 and have lived in the U.S. for at least five years before the date of enactment. Economic conditions have far more impact on illegal immigration than specific pieces of legislation.

            Myth: The DREAM Act isn’t just for students, but will benefit people of all ages.

            Fact: Because the U.S. has failed to address the question of illegal immigration for more than a decade, an entire generation of young people’s skills and contributions could easily be lost. The young people who inspired the DREAM Act ten years ago may now be in their early 30s and should be eligible to benefit when it becomes law. Consequently, the DREAM Act encourages immigrants 35 or younger to attend college or join the military, but they must still have entered the U.S. before they were 16 AND have been here for five years immediately preceding the date of enactment.

            Myth: The DREAM Act legalizes criminals and gang members and lets people who have already been ordered deported avoid the law.

            Fact: Immigrants convicted of serious crimes are ineligible for DREAM Act status; the DREAM Act excludes from eligibility most immigrants applying for benefits who have been under an order of deportation. Specifically, the DREAM Act states that an applicant may not have already been ordered deported unless they received the order before they were 16 years old.

            Myth: The DREAM Act lets students cut in line in front of other lawful immigrants.

            Fact: DREAM Act students do not compete for visas with other applicants for legal permanent residence. Instead, DREAM Act creates a separate program for students that requires them to earn legal permanent residence by attending college or serving in the military for two years while in a temporary legal status. DREAM will not affect the number of visas available or the time it takes to get a visa for those entering through traditional legal immigration.

            Myth: The DREAM Act would diminish opportunities for U.S.-citizen students.

            Fact: According to the National Immigration Law Center:

            Most undocumented students are likely to have zero impact on admission rates of native born students: Since 2001, 10 states have made it easier for undocumented state residents to attend college by offering in-state tuition to those that qualify. A significant portion of the students that took advantage of this opportunity have done so in community colleges, which have open enrollment. The small numbers of students who will attend 4-year universities are not significant enough to affect the opportunities of others.

            Institutions charged with education of our youth overwhelmingly support the bill. Well-established education organizations like the American Association of Community Colleges, American Association of State Colleges and Universities, National Educators Association, the College Board, and prominent university presidents/chancellors support the DREAM Act.

  26. Jeff says

    Senator Scott Brown would be smart to sign this. He is a Christian (Protestant) so I’m pretty confident that he will do the right thing.

    • NewsGuy says

      He’s a compromised politician that’s why they put him in.

      • Joe Wittman says

        about ur reply earlier .. if someone broke into.ur house.. and they brought a kid who does not know what hes doing.. and the kid on contrary of stealing from u actually tells his dad to not steal.. wpukd u tell the police to punish him.. will u throw him in jail too? what if that kid started as he got older to make up for his dads mistakes starts working for u and helping u.. will u still wanna punish him? or will u be thankful and give him a chance.. even if not his dad. but at least him

        • NewsGuy says

          You wouldn’t give the kid a room in your house or your television set, would you?

          • Joe Wittman says

            actually i would give him a tv. .. and if i know he got no where else to go.. i would give him a room so he can stay as long as makes the most of that opprtunity

          • Jeff says

            Sounds like NewsGuy doesn’t really know what he’s talking about. He’s just kind of rebutting what everyone says to feel legit but he makes no sense whatsover. I don’t think he’s even read the bill. To newsguy- go find a different forum, the people here are obviously far more educated than you, you’re not in their league.

  27. Francis says

    The Dream Act “Catch 22″ trap and Amnesty

    The most obvious question to ask, if the Dream Act passes in the Senate next week, are the parents still liable for excludability from the United States? If the parents are illegal by definition, can these people be deported? Let’s face it the students might get special relief under The Development, Relief and Education for Alien Minors Act, but that doesn’t mean the parents are free and clear? Those who enter without inspection have committed a federal crime Title 8 Section 1325 of the U.S. Code, and ICE are charged to knock on the door with an arrest warrant, once they know the abode of the student’s family? These scholars are the perfect GPS to zero-in on all the rest of the family under one roof. How is greasy Senator Harry Reid of Nevada and his hard Core liberal progressives going to slip this “Catch 22″ around the Immigration and Customs Service? Yet the Lib-Democrats are insisting this in not any kind of Amnesty?

    If the Senate has some sleazy amendment that states the parents cannot be deported, then this is simply another—AMNESTY–that is being slipped past the American people. Then we should demand of a second question if this Dream Act is passed by the Senate. Who is going to pay for the Mother, Father, Sister, Brother and extended family members? Eventually in the majority of instances the taxpayer, bares the whole dollar package in the end. Fair stated on its website, ” In 2001, the United States admitted 1,064,318 immigrants–enough people to create a major city the size of Chicago. Why is immigration so high? One of the reasons is chain migration. In chain migration, one immigrant sponsors several other immigrants for admission, who then sponsor several others themselves, and so on.”

    So the third question to ask after forwarding 9 years at the rate of chain migration, and a estimated 1 million a year being given permission to immigrate or migrate. Then the US government estimates we have only 13 million illegal immigrants? There is no possible way this number is correct, unless the have already been brain-washed? Learn the facts, not lies, propaganda spread by the Left Wing Press at NumbersUSA. The Pew Hispanic Center, has estimated a total of 2.15 million persons who might qualify for the DREAM Act. Then simply estimate that if both parents entered America illegally, a projection can assume 5 million blood relation illegal aliens are in the student’s home, who can be charged with unlawful entry and taken into custody? Use the Capitol Switchboard:

    202-224-3121 to demand “NO” of the Dream Act, until it is further investigated.

    In addition–any Student–come to that, any illegal alien can join the military in time of conflict. One does not need the Dream Act to be recruited into the armed forces, using 8 USC § 1440, these illegal aliens can become naturalized citizens through expedited processing, often obtaining U.S. citizenship within half a year?

    • Jeff says

      Myth: The DREAM Act uses taxpayer dollars for scholarships and grants to undocumented students.

      Fact: The DREAM Act states that undocumented youth adjusting to lawful permanent resident status are only eligible for federal student loans (which must be paid back), and federal work-study programs, where they must work for any benefit they receive. They are not eligible for federal grants, such as Pell Grants.

      Myth: The DREAM Act allows undocumented students to pay cheaper tuition than citizens.

      Fact: The DREAM Act gives states the option to offer in-state tuition to students registered under DREAM, but it does NOT guarantee cheaper tuition. At most, the DREAM Act allows undocumented students to access the same benefits as their peers. The DREAM Act allows undocumented students to access in-state tuition, but only if they would otherwise qualify for such tuition, and if state law permits undocumented students to receive in-state tuition.

      Myth: The DREAM Act gives undocumented students and their families access to public benefits.

      Fact: DREAM Act students receive no special benefits and are subject to the same public benefits eligibility requirements as other legal immigrants. This means that DREAM Act students and families are NOT immediately eligible for Supplemental Security Income, food stamps, Temporary Assistance for Needy Families, Medicaid (other than emergency care), and numerous other federal benefit programs. In general, a person must be here as a lawful permanent resident for five years before they receive non-emergency federal assistance.

      Myth: The DREAM Act will result in a mass amnesty.

      Fact: The DREAM Act is not an amnesty. No one will automatically receive a green card. To legalize, individuals have to meet stringent eligibility criteria: they must have entered the United States before age 16; must have been here for five years or more; must not have committed any major crimes; must graduate from high school or the equivalent; and must complete at least two years of college or military service. Eligible students must first obtain conditional residency and complete the requirements before they can obtain a green card—a process that will take years. Not all immigrants who came as young children will be eligible to legalize because they will not meet some of these requirements.

      Myth: The DREAM Act will spur more illegal immigration because it rewards undocumented youth.

      Fact: Programs like the DREAM Act, which have clear cut-off dates, offer no incentives for more illegal immigration. In order to qualify for the DREAM Act, a student must have entered the United States before the age of 16 and have lived in the U.S. for at least five years before the date of enactment. Economic conditions have far more impact on illegal immigration than specific pieces of legislation.

      Myth: The DREAM Act isn’t just for students, but will benefit people of all ages.

      Fact: Because the U.S. has failed to address the question of illegal immigration for more than a decade, an entire generation of young people’s skills and contributions could easily be lost. The young people who inspired the DREAM Act ten years ago may now be in their early 30s and should be eligible to benefit when it becomes law. Consequently, the DREAM Act encourages immigrants 35 or younger to attend college or join the military, but they must still have entered the U.S. before they were 16 AND have been here for five years immediately preceding the date of enactment.

      Myth: The DREAM Act legalizes criminals and gang members and lets people who have already been ordered deported avoid the law.

      Fact: Immigrants convicted of serious crimes are ineligible for DREAM Act status; the DREAM Act excludes from eligibility most immigrants applying for benefits who have been under an order of deportation. Specifically, the DREAM Act states that an applicant may not have already been ordered deported unless they received the order before they were 16 years old.

      Myth: The DREAM Act lets students cut in line in front of other lawful immigrants.

      Fact: DREAM Act students do not compete for visas with other applicants for legal permanent residence. Instead, DREAM Act creates a separate program for students

  28. mj says

    sais .mom help me

  29. CAL says

    I’m not sure why some people are worried about these students taking their jobs. First, I think competition is good. I am currently in a nursing program where only 100 students are accepted and they have 1200-1500 applicants. Knowing this, I made sure to work hard. I knew I had to stay competitive. Anytime I felt like having an off day or watching TV, I made sure to remind myself to study, get certifications, volunteer at the hospital. If someone knows they have to work hard and get more certifications or take more classes they will either say “nevermind” or they will do what they need to do.. I think that is good for our great country- more educated and prepared citizens. Second, these students wont get federal grants or free money- no need to worry about that. Third, can you imagine how much money will be brought in? they have to pay any back taxes, pay fines, buy a car, pay tuition, get insurance! They are not eligible for federal assistance (it is only for US Citizens). I say lets give them a chance to prove how much they want to be here. These kids have been here 10 + years, I dont think they will be returning to the countries they were born in anytime soon, so I’m all for giving them a chance. I rather we have educated, tax paying, productive people in our great country.

  30. jose cruz says

    MOMY PLEAS APROVE THE DREAM ACT RIGHT NOW YOU HEAR ME

  31. Jeff says

    Sounds like NewsGuy doesn’t really know what he’s talking about. He’s just kind of rebutting what everyone says to feel legit but he makes no sense whatsover. I don’t think he’s even read the bill. To newsguy- go find a different forum, the people here are obviously far more educated than you, you’re not in their league.

  32. Dave says

    I AM NOT SAYING DONT CLOSE THE BORDERS. I AM SAYING STOP THE HATE.

    Before you Scream and show Ignorance and Hate at least read the Immigration Law regarding Undocumented Immigrants.

    THE UNDOCUMENTED IMMIGRANTS ARE PAYING MORE TAXES THAN YOU THINK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    IMMIGRANTS AND TAXES:
    Q: “Is it true that illegal immigrants don’t pay taxes and drain our economy?”
    A: As Ben Franklin said, “Nothing is certain but death and taxes.” Like the rest of us, unauthorized immigrants pay taxes on their property and anything they buy. More than half of them have taxes taken out of their paychecks, but because our immigration system is dysfunctional, these taxes are paid under false Social Security numbers. We need a new regimen in which we know who is paying taxes and can ensure that no one is getting a free ride. The only way to do that is to pull unauthorized immigrants out of the shadows and get them on the right side of the law.
    Three state-level studies have found that unauthorized immigrants pay more in taxes than they use in benefits. In Iowa, unauthorized immigrants pay an estimated $40 to $62 million in state taxes, while they and their employers contribute an additional $50 million to $77.8 million in federal, Social Security, and Medicare taxes from which they will never benefit. In Oregon, unauthorized immigrants—who are not eligible for any state benefits—pay between $134 million and $187 million in taxes each year. Finally, in Texas, the State Comptroller found that, without unauthorized residents, the gross state product in 2005 would have been $17.7 billion less.
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    The economics of immigration, Stephen C. Goss, the chief actuary of the Social Security Administration and someone who enjoys bipartisan support for his straightforwardness, said that by 2007, the Social Security trust fund had received a net benefit of somewhere between $120 billion and $240 billion from unauthorized immigrants.

    That represented an astounding 5.4 percent to 10.7 percent of the trust fund’s total assets of $2.24 trillion that year. The cumulative contribution is surely higher now. Unauthorized immigrants paid a net contribution of $12 billion in 2007 alone, Goss said.

    Previous estimates circulating publicly and in Congress had placed the annual contributions at roughly half of Goss’s 2007 figure and listed the cumulative benefit on the order of $50 billion.

    The Social Security trust fund faces a solvency crisis that would be even more pressing were it not for these payments.

    Adding to the Social Security irony is that the restrictionists are mostly OLDER AND RETIRED WHITES from longtime American families. The very people, in other words, who benefit most from the Social Security payments by unauthorized immigrants.

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    The Undocumented Immigrants pay the exact same amount of taxes like you and me when they buy Things, rent a house, fill up gas, drink a beer or wine, buy appliances, play the states lottery and mega millions . Below are the links to just a few sites that will show you exactly how much tax you or the Undocumented Immigrant pays , so you see they are NOT FREELOADERS, THEY PAY TAXES AND TOLLS Exactly the same as you, Now if you take out 10% from your states /city Budget what will your city/state look like financially ?

    Stop your folly thinking , you are wise USE YOUR WISDOM to see the reality. They pay more taxes than you think, Including FEDERAL INCOME TAX using a ITN Number that is given to them by the IRS, Social Security Taxes and State taxes that are withheld form their paychecks automatically.

    Taxes, paid by You & the Undocumented are the same in each state check your state : http://www.taxadmin.org/fta/rate/sales.html

    GAS Taxes paid by you & the Undocumented are the same. Go to and check out your states tax; http://www.gaspricewatch.com/usgastaxes.asp

    Cigarette Taxes paid by you & the Undocumented are the same, check this out in : http://www.taxadmin.org/fta/rate/cigarett.html

    Clothing Sales Taxes, are the same paid by you & the Undocumented Immigrant; http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sales_taxes_in_the_United_States

    City Taxes, are the same paid by you or the Undocumented, since he pays rent and the LANDLORD pays the city : http://www.town-usa.com/statetax/statetaxlist.html

    Beer Taxes, are the same paid by you or the Undocumented: http://www.taxadmin.org/fta/rate/beer.html

    TAX DATA : http://www.taxfoundation.org/taxdata/show/245.html

    Eight million Undocumented immigrants pay Social Security, Medicare and income taxes. Denying public services to people who pay their taxes is an affront to America’s bedrock belief in fairness. But many “pull-up-the-drawbridge” politicians want to do just that when it comes to Undocumented immigrants.

    The fact that Undocumented immigrants pay taxes at all will come as news to many Americans. A stunning two thirds of Undocumented immigrants pay Medicare, Social Security and personal income taxes.

    Yet, nativists like Congressman Tom Tancredo, R-Colo., have popularized the notion that illegal aliens are a colossal drain on the nation’s hospitals, schools and welfare programs — consuming services that they don’t pay for.

    In reality, the 1996 welfare reform bill disqualified Undocumented immigrants from nearly all means tested government programs including food stamps, housing assistance, Medicaid and Medicare-funded hospitalization.

    The only services that illegals can still get are emergency medical care and K-12 education. Nevertheless, Tancredo and his ilk pushed a bill through the House criminalizing all aid to illegal aliens — even private acts of charity by priests, nurses and social workers.

    Potentially, any soup kitchen that offers so much as a free lunch to an illegal could face up to five years in prison and seizure of assets. The Senate bill that recently collapsed would have tempered these draconian measures against private aid.

    But no one — Democrat or Republican — seems to oppose the idea of withholding public services. Earlier this year, Congress passed a law that requires everyone who gets Medicaid — the government-funded health care program for the poor — to offer proof of U.S. citizenship so we can avoid “theft of these benefits by illegal aliens,” as Rep. Charlie Norwood, R-Ga., puts it. But, immigrants aren’t flocking to the United States to mooch off the government.

    According to a study by the Urban Institute, the 1996 welfare reform effort dramatically reduced the use of welfare by undocumented immigrant households, exactly as intended. And another vital thing happened in 1996: the Internal Revenue Service began issuing identification numbers to enable illegal immigrants who don’t have Social Security numbers to file taxes.

    One might have imagined that those fearing deportation or confronting the prospect of paying for their safety net through their own meager wages would take a pass on the IRS’ scheme. Not so. Close to 8 million of the 12 million or so illegal aliens in the country today file personal income taxes using these numbers, contributing billions to federal coffers.

    No doubt they hope that this will one day help them acquire legal status — a plaintive expression of their desire to play by the rules and come out of the shadows. What’s more, aliens who are not self-employed have Social Security and Medicare taxes automatically withheld from their paychecks.

    Since undocumented workers have only fake numbers, they’ll never be able to collect the benefits these taxes are meant to pay for. Last year, the revenues from these fake numbers — that the Social Security administration stashes in the “earnings suspense file” — added up to 10 percent of the Social Security surplus.

    The file is growing, on average, by more than $50 billion a year. Beyond federal taxes, all illegals automatically pay state sales taxes that contribute toward the upkeep of public facilities such as roads that they use, and property taxes through their rent that contribute toward the schooling of their children.

    The non-partisan National Research Council found that when the taxes paid by the children of low-skilled immigrant families — most of whom are illegal — are factored in, they contribute on average $80,000 more to federal coffers than they consume. Yes, many illegal migrants impose a strain on border communities on whose doorstep they first arrive, broke and unemployed.

    To solve this problem equitably, these communities ought to receive the surplus taxes that federal government collects from immigrants. But the real reason border communities are strained is the lack of a guest worker program.

    Such a program would match willing workers with willing employers in advance so that they wouldn’t be stuck for long periods where they disembark while searching for jobs. The cost of undocumented aliens is an issue that immigrant bashers have created to whip up indignation against people they don’t want here in the first place.

    With the Senate having just returned from yet another vacation and promising to revisit the stalled immigration bill, politicians ought to set the record straight: Illegals are not milking the government. If anything, it is the other way around.

    • NewsGuy says

      I don’t care how much taxes they pay. THEY SHOULD NOT BE HERE. Thousands of people go through years of red tape to be in America legally – some are even turned down. And here we are, rewarding people for breaking the law.

      • Jonathan says

        The Dream Act will have no effect on those that are under a different category for legalization. I consulted an Immigration Attorney about this. Currently, the fastest way for anyone “out of status” (without legal documents visa/ green card are 1) to marry US citizen 2) get petitioned by an employer. The former process takes 2-3 yrs while the latter takes about 6-7 depending on the individual case. What the Dream Act does is create a different Category. This means that the number of Visas allowed for those that are already in the midst of processing their paperwork will NOT be affected (as they fall under a seperate category) So obviously, the Dream Act beneficiaries won’t be “cutting in line” Also, they will NOT qualify for any type of goverment grant/ aide because they will remain in what is called ” CONDITIONAL status” Conditional status means they have to comply with the stringent provisions and fullfill all the Educational requirements to remain in the country. Because of the “Condtional Status” they will NOT be allowed to petition/sponsor “bring” anyone else under their temporary legal status.I am all for it. I think it’s a great way to scratch the surface of the already broken immigration system. I think it’ll be worse to leave things as they are. That’s what got us in this mess in the first place. No one ever bothered/ even attempted to fix the Immigration problem we have in this country. This is the change that we need, and this is why we elected President Obama. It’s sickening to watch time just pass us by as we go through the daily motions of life ignoring the immigration problem. We sit by and watch the richer get richer and the poorer get poorer (old news) I want it fixed and this is a great start.

    • win says

      US citizens get denied public benefits all the time and they pay taxes too.

      So apparently it isn’t the great big affront you think it is to be denied public benfits.

  33. 7281546309 says

    The line between illegal and legal cannot be crossed or moved. It opens the flood gates.

  34. Nona says

    Something must be done about the Immigration problem we have in this country. This bill actually makes sense if you take the time to read it. The people this affects GET TAXED while they work LEGALLY instead of working under the table and away from the radar allowing worker abuse. Bam-economic booster. The people this affects DO NOT qualify for goverment aide (food stamps, social security supplements, federal grants for education) so I don’t see how this could be perceived as “milking” the goverment since they don’t have the “milking” equipment (only citizens have that ) Since it is “Conditional or Temporary” legal status, it is EARNED. That said, let them apply for it and if they fail to meet the standards then you have grounds to boot them. I would hate to see lives go to waste. I mean, these children didn’t just accept their fate, grabbed a red bucket and stood on the street. They chose to change their circumstance and lead PRODUCTIVE lives. Let them have the opportunity to prove their worth.

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