A 30-year veteran of the Guardian Angels who left over rampant corruption he experienced and saw there has formed a coalition of alumni members that look to reform the group and return it to its original spirit.
Tyrone “Wing Chung” Bonds, who was leader of the Las Vegas Guardian Angels franchise, has started Together We Stand (TWS), a commission of alumni members who are looking to change the injustices they see going on in the group.
Members include Larry “Spike” Morgan, Sharon “Tye” Coleman, Tony Mayo, and the original Twin Dragons, Jeff and Jerry Monroe. In a July 2009 interview with The Right Perspective, Jerry Monroe explained how degenerate liar Curtis Sliwa stole the Guardian Angels from him and his brother.
Curtis Sliwa “has disgraced the memory of what the original Angels were all about,” Bonds said in a video announcing the formation of TWS.
TWS plans to go on a talk show circuit, which will include print, radio, and other media.
“Our whole goal is to straighten out things are not correct within the group,” Bonds said. “Insurance for those guys who get their butt beat out in the street, [and] change that policy of, ‘if you get killed we won’t do anything for you.’”
Here is the video of Bonds announcing the formation of TWS:
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Tyrone Bonds (formerly Wing Chung) did not resign from the Guardian Angels. Tyrone was asked to leave for his failure to perform up to standards. He refused to patrol and after over a year was unable to even recruit one member for his chapter.
What Tyrone wont tell you is that he was removed from the Alumni Members Group. What Tyrone wont tell you is that all of his supporters are people who were removed or "stripped" from the Guardian Angels for serious habitual violations of the code of conduct of the Guardian Angels.
Tyrone claims to be an 7th or 8th Dan in Shotokan Karate but if you contact any of the legitimate Shotokan associations associated with the official Shotokan association in Japan they will tell there are no 7th or 8th Dan in the United States. Also if you do some research you would find out that as far as skill goes 4th and MAYBE 5th Dan are skill based, the ranks above that are usually like Honorary ranks like an Honorary Doctorate awarded by a University to someone who speaks for graduation.
Let us be honest. Tyrone in his life has done somewhere between 50 to 100 patrols. He is a good mouth piece but he is a poor Angel.
What Tyrone wont tell you is that his services were terminated twice prior to this and others stepped up and spoke for him, one of which is 3rd Rail who he now verbally attacks in his videos.
And one should note that Tyrone can't even follow the rules in his work place. He claims to be a great Martial Artist ask him why when he was working as an unarmed Security Guard he felt the need to bring a shot gun to work?
If Tyrone really cared about the Guardian Angels he would have gathered together other concerned Guardian Angels and reached out to the leadership. Instead he has created videos to attack Angels that have devoted their lives as 24 hour Angels and belittles other Angels in a way to gather attention to himself.
Tyrone has no concern but for his own glory. Tyrone is an ego maniac and a narcissist. He should be ashamed of himself.
Mr. Kratt, If curtis sliwa is really a "crimefighter" or wants to be one then why is'nt he a police officer? Why is'nt he patroling the streets along with the REAL CRIMEFIGHTERS ? Why is just doing his show and collecting all of the millions of dollars ?
I told you this was coming!!! Another dastardly character attack by a stooge of The Degenerate Liar and media shyster!! Did he answer ONE of the charges made by Tyrone? Ans: NO!! Hey, if Travis Bickel was such a “crimefighter”, then how come his goal was a talkradio program? What the hell does that have to do with “patrolling” the streets? That was his goal from the beginning! What about all the millions he’s made off of the use of the name “Guardian Angels”, and his stooges made not a nickel? Why do his franchises close one after another? Ans: because these kids wise up to the fact that they’re being used by this Randall Flagg! That’s why he’s always trying to revive the franchises, like in Toronto. How could he be a “volunteer” when he is cashing in on the name GA? Want more proof? He got himself a publicity agent. You can see that in the ads that WABC radio did for him where he’s sitting in a director’s chair in his red satin jacket looking over his shoulder. The Jacket says, “guardian angels”, and the name on the chair “Curtis Sliwa”! It was a promo photo. What does that have to do with “crimefighting”? 3rd rate, the snitch? This sick freak is the media shyster’s slave, like Renfield in Dracula! He does his master’s bidding. Oh, and how come 3rd rate told kids to tag on illegal sites? Why is he called “a snitch,plain and simple” in Chicago? Typical of the media shyster and degenerate liar, he won’t debate Bonds one on one, but has his stooge brigade go after him. Hey, he took on “Uzi toting psychopatic cocaine sucking killing machines” in the subway, another lie, so why should he be afraid to debate Bonds? Oh, and the story about the “uzis” another lie from a sick degenerate liar! What does wearing a Burger King outfit have to do with the GA? What does anything he does have to do with them, except to line his pockets and get his name in the news. Jr. Gotti is a fine decent family man, a dedicated father and loving husband. Where was the degenerate liar on Father’s day? Out on Mullberry St. looking to get his disorted mug in the media. Some father, some leader! How come no answer on the savage and brutal beating of an Iraq War Veteran and breaking his arm in three places? It’s obvious that the truth is like a stake in the heart of a vampire, the media shyster!! Join Operation No Angels and send this media shyster and degenerate liar back to Palookaville where he belongs!!!
“Tyrone is an egomaniac and narcissist”? And the media shyster isn’t? Are you kidding me?????? It’s all Flagg, all Dracula, all the time!!! Join Operation No Angels and send him back to the gutters of Canarsie Brooklyn where he crawled out of!!!
You say that Tryone’s rank may be a phony in his Karate ranking? That no “official” Japanese assoc. has someone of this claimed rank in the USA? Big freakin’ deal!!!! The media shyster and degenerate liar filed at least SIX false police reports which are a felony!!! Tell, me, stooge, which is illegal? The ranking, or the six felonies? What Randal Flagg won’t tell you where is the 100K he got by begging on the radio, which is another 501C3 violation. Show us the money!!! Where is the building he was supposed to use for his “headquarters in LOSIDA? NEVER USED IT? Come on, even a Renfield can’t be that stupid as to use such puny attacks on Tyrone!!! They never confront the truth about their Dracula, because his Renfields are doing their master’s bidding! Join Operation No Angels and drive a stake through the heart of this vampire who feeds off of people’s fears of crime, and only lines his pockets instead!!!! The GA are founded upon lies, and if he lied to the media, the cops and everyone else, he’ll lie to you, moron!!!
Frank: Admit it. You’re juss jellus o’ mi cuz I makes duh moolah Schmoolah U wish U made. And I get the gorgis chicks. If U cud figgur out a schtick like this, you wud milk it fur all duh do re mi, cheddar, lettuce, ducats you cud, marone!! So I trades in duh clown outfit fur duh the Burger King outfit. Frank, go make me a WHOPPER!!
“Alley Oop” via proxy – Admin
all i have to say is thanks frank ,,,wing chung,,,lol
To Quote THAT ASSHOLE ADAM 'THE PRATT' KRATT
'What Tyrone wont tell you is that all of his supporters are people who were removed or “stripped” from the Guardian Angels for serious habitual violations of the code of conduct of the Guardian Angels.'
Well JUST thought I would throw it out ther as a matter of FACT but I was NEVER and NEVER have been STRIPPED and I am a supporter of Wing Chung…. See more
Get your facts straight boy, I was patrolling the streets when you were probably still hoping to one day be a power ranger.
WHAT AN ASSHOLE.
If someone wants to tell me I am now stripped for actually doing nothing other than standing up for what i belive in then so be it.
Go ahead.
Make my day ;)
Shuriken
Has anyone seen where I put all my exclamation points? They seem to be missing. Someone must have used EVERY SINGLE ONE IN THE UNIVERSE.
There is also a distinct shortage of hyperbole everywhere but in ‘The Great Frank’s posts.
Curtis, you just proved our point for us! You only care about the money, publicity and the chicks, not the ones that put their lives on the line for you! You are a disgrace, and we will show the world who you really are! You think we all have the same motives as you? we’re about to prove you wrong. Some of us still know what honor is.
When the Renfields answer the questions instead of baseless ad hominim attacks then they can be equals. Fact is, too many kids were connned by this "Music Man" with a beret. Remember the musical the "Music Man" with Robert Preston as the traveling salesman who sold music equipment? Except there was no equipment that they paid for. He told them if they just "think" they can play the could. Hmmm, sounds like the media shyster and degenerate liar! The character's name was Harold Hill. So this Harold Hill tells people they're "crimefighters" if they "think" they are! He cons them into thinking this while he rakes in the millions! They go out begging for him, show up to make it look like he's their great leader, but in reality he's a "Harold Hill" with a beret! He's getting rich, they're getting stiffed by him, and so are those who fall for this Harold Hill with a beret! When Tyrone, or Jerome exposes him, the first thing he does is send out his Renfields to attack them. Like Renfield in the Dracula movie, they are insane and serve their master. They do what he can't do during the day. So while this Dracula is doing something else, like his crap radio show, or going to some parade, or function, they're doing his dirty work! Look at this 3rd Rate, the snitch. Truly a mindless vegetable, a tody, a lackey, a perfect Renfield for his master!! This is what he put in charge? It's like putting Norman Bates in charge! The media shyster has run roughshod over these kids. He's played on their idealism. Used them to make himself a "celebrity". What does being in the Pulaski Day parade, or any other parade have to do with crimefighting? Hey, Renfields, why couldn't he identify the guy who broke his arm with a baseball bat? At least the Iraq War Vet could identify his! Hey, why couldn't the degenerate liar identify the two guys who were in the car when he supposedly got shot? And maybe Tyrone, or Jerry can answer me this: Dracula says that he "got my nose broke four times being hit with a baseball bat". Do you remember ANY ONE time he got his nose broke, let alone FOUR? Join Operation No Angels and send this Dracula back to Transilvania!!!
What is interesting is the instantaneous mediocre attempt to assassinate the character of someone like Tyrone (Wing Chung) Bonds, without ever considering or investigating what truth lies in what he is saying. Imagine devoting 30 years of your life to an organization created in the interest of justice, becoming part of a collective aimed at fighting crime, injustice while risking your life at the same time. Wing Chung and the Guardian Angel members are Fathers, Sons, Brothers, Uncles, Wives, Mothers, Daughters Sisters all with families, with children, some died in service to this organization. There was a strong belief what they were was good, that they were making a difference to their communities, as a result of this belief and commitment their lives became the sacrifices needed so that one could gain notoriety, one man’s greed, obsession with media attention, fortune and fame would be attained from their blood and sacrifice. These members who continue to stand in service do so without the benefit of living in a 4 million dollar property in NYC, many are homeless, when they are injured they do not have the health care available to them like their “so called” leader, curtis sliwa, they have to find a way to pay for their own care with no assistance from the “alliance”. While curtis sliwa has become the latest buffoon on radio and t.v there are real men and women volunteering their services for an ideal that has realistically died because of this moronic individual. Sliwa is quick to point out the injustices of others, but here is wisdom, what type of supportive services are there for members who are unable to work, or care for their families, how much salary does sliwa actually collect from the organization, are there any provisional services set up for members who are killed/murdered in the line of servitude, assistance to the widows? scholarships? anything, why is it when a member is hospitalized there is a collection taken up by his/her fellow members why should they who have little be forced to take up a collection have to take up a collection to pay the costs for medical/hospitalization services resulting their idealistic belief in the organizations mission. Security officers are covered by the companies they are employed by, Police have an enormous amount of support and benevolent associations protecting them why not the members of the Guardian Angels, with over 1 million dollars in donations, grants and other fundraisers why not do something to be of some assistance to the members whose backs you have ridden for over 30 years.
Frank: I got my schtick with the GA and the Burger King suit and you got yours with these mishigoss Beringian/Salutrians and facachta Boerevolk. Let's have a truce. I won't knock your schtick and you won't knock mine. Mach meir nich michuga. Vuchs hachst en kopf?
Please remove me from the TWS group, I am not a member and I do not wish to be associated with anything involving jeff monroe.
I raised all these questions about health insurance, and life insurance, and the fact that is Degenerate liar and media shyster couldn't give a damn about these kids. I was viciously attacked by a cheap snitch out of Chicago, 3rd rate, the Renfield of the GA. The more people find a voice to expose the violent cult that the media shyster presides over, the faster it can come down all around him, and those who are really devoted to principles can rectify the situation. Harold Hill with a beret has conned the gullible and naive while becoming a millionaire and celebrity freak show with a beret. When a member is injured, or killed he shows up at the funeral, not because he is concerned with the victim or his family, but to get his mug on camera. He makes a show out of it. He struts before members to show how "concerned" he is. It looks like a para military group with General media shyster reviewing the troops. "Wow! look at how famous and powerful I am". But when the cameras stop rolling, he goes back down his rathole to connive how to get some money out of it off the gullible who think he's doing something. The familes are left on their own, the children, if any of the member are left to fend for themselves. Parents or wives are just another casuality of this vile degenerate liar!! He threw the "Fallen Six" under a bus when a stooge wrote that they weren't "on patrol" or active at the time of their death. So this is the "concern" he has for those who were ignorant enough to think he was for real. His kid goes to private school. I thought he was for "races getting along together". He lives on the wealthy Upper East Side of Manhattan. He surrounds himself with mindless vegetables who cater to his every whim. He lives in a bubble. He desperately wants a "reality" tv show. How can it be "reality" when he faked crime scenes? How can it be reality when he is unreal? He is attacking Tyrone because he knows that he is a witness to his lies. My warning to Tyrone: have your facts at the ready because he has friends in the media who'll run interference for him. The Monroes who were cheated out of the GA which they started didn't have the facitlities at the time to counter and expose this media shyster and degnerate liar. That was before the internet. He'll do anything to keep his cult of Sliwa alive, and that is what the GA have become a cult! Join Operation No Angels and we'll win! Question: how do you when he isn't lying? When his lips aren't moving!!!!
I honestly don’t know who this Kraps guy think he is but one thing I do know is that when Curtis wants to get rid of some one he sends his cronies to discredit the person. He uses any means to keep himself right and everyone wrong but he will have to answer to the Lord one day for his wrongdoings. And whomever sides with this guy is going to pay to. Now here is the bad thing about Sliwa, he could do good but he choses not to do it. And though he has made some strides for good, his bad out weigh the good he has done. What Wing Chun has spoken is the truth, and those who know him know he is telling the truth. His fatigue and endless sacrifices has lead him to post these videos. No body just ups and starts to treat sliwa bad its from years of taking his stuff and then either receiving no credit or no funds to help keep going thats why most members leave. And his words that that Curtis feels about members seems to me and others to be true. And Wing Chun is exposing more of what others has told him. Not bad Angels as you supose Mr. Krapts or whatever but those who have put their life on the line many a time when you were no where to be found.
The media shyster and degenerate liar bills himself to any and all as"founder and president of the GA". Okay, then what about the Monroe Bros.? THEY found the group!! And who "elected" him president? How often are there elections for the post? When was the last election? Were there any other candidates? Who were they? How many were there? Where is the election held, if any, and who presides over it? What is he, "president for life" like some dictator? Who is on the "board of the GA"? who appointed them? How often do they meet and are members at the meeting to voice their opinions or dissent? Like Jim Jones with a beret he has an iron fist on throats of those who dare to speak out!!! Join Operation No Angels and stop this two bit Jim Jones clone with a beret!!!
I cannot believe how much our morals, values and our dignities have all fallen and strayed from our true purpose; to honor our country by protecting its people, our people when they cannot protect themselves. The Guardian Angels are not new idea or a solution, but at one time were the answer to a failing attitude and mindset where protecting the weak, the discarded and the destitude became a last priority. The existence of the Guardian Angels bought about a great sigh of relief to many people who struggled with the fear of becoming the next victim of some violent crime. As I remembered, the Guardian Angels were a crying-out statement, “That if you can’t protect the people from the criminals, then we will!”. And, a great job they did! and is it true to this day morally and honorably? I was a first year student at Parsons School of Design when I first joined the Guardian Angels in 1980. A colleague of mine at Parsons who was in the Guardian Angels, did introduce me to Curtis “Rock” Sliwa. We were all so young back in those early years, many with hugh hearts towards helping those in need of protection and to provide a sense of relief that people would be safe to their destination.
I was in Wing Chungs patrol for a short time and a active member for two years. In the the two years of active duty with the Angels and juggling my work at Parsons; I began in a recruit patrol under patrol leader Kenneth “Sai” Trent who was my colleague at Parsons. I was later placed in Wing Chungs patrol, and when Wing Chung left for the U.S. Army, Curtis then placed me in the “Fire Fist” patrol to strengthen the patrol’s moral and discipline. We had so many great patrols and its members were fill with the great desire to help others and make a great difference and a great contribution to our communities.
They were a few patrols that were functioning out of order, and those allegations had to be properly investigated. That is where myself and Sharon “Tai” Coleman were chosen by Curtis to investigate those patrols in question, by riding along with them and deciding if the patrol should be stripped and disbanded. Sharon and I were probably the first Guardian Angel “Internal Investigation” team to exist. In 1982, I left the Guardian Angels for active duty in the U.S. Army Infantry and in 1991, I left my military service with three Honorable Discharge awards, two Good Conduct medal awards and two Army
Achievement medal awards. From 1988 to 1991, I was a MP with the 340th MP Company in Queens New York. In 1990, I became a duly-sworned peace officer with the Roosevelt Island Public Safety Department. By 1994, I entered the NYPD’s police academy as a new recruit. Now I am in my 17th year with the NYPD, and an instructor with the police academy’s Specialized Training Section teaching police tactics.
Outside being a police officer, I am a ordained deacon in the Christian faith of my church.
I am so disappointed for the change of focus from “Dare to Care” for others and our own Guardian Angel members to “I Care for Myself Image”. Those of you who know me or know of me as a GA Alumnus, know that I built my reputation on honest work and dedication in helping anyone in need of my services. My hard work speaks for itself.
I am still a GA Alumnus, and I will defend the original idea and purpose of what the Guardian Angels were designed to be, and not the media circus of misfits that is rapidly becoming. We are not children, but mature adults with something so precious and vital to give to our communities, that they continue to rely upon. Is the Guardian Angels becoming the next Enron and AIG. Whether or not, truth, false and opinion, the light of truth will shine and reveal the deep buried lies and deception. Like garbage, you can bury it so deep, that the over-powering stench will reveal its true location. I honor the “Guardian Angels” idea but we are doing a terrible dishonor and injustice to the original purpose the orginization was created for, by allowing self agendas instead of the agenda of taking care of our members so that they can take care of others. Now, am I to believe that those who think that every member of the Guardian Angels who falls victim of injury, is on his or her own, should just turn in their colors. I am a GA Alumnus who is a “military veteran” and a active police officer with the NYPD, who will never leave a member of service stranded to lick their own wounds. That is not American or Human! We have a saying in the military and in the law enforcement arena, “No One Is Left Behind”! Period!!!!!
What ever needs to be said and revealed, lets do it on a open panel for all to see.
There are many things I’ve seen in the Guardian Angels chapter in New York that I will comment later. As with Curtis “Rock” Sliwa” whom I have admired so long, why as a married man to your wonderful wife Mary and your now a father, would make such a public comment, “Admit it. You’re juss jellus o’ mi cuz I makes duh moolah Schmoolah U wish U made. And I get the gorgis chicks.” You get all the gorgeous chicks?, I will never as a married man make a statement out of jest. It is disrespectable to your wife! Am I right or wrong? I’m right! Curtis you may know me or have chosen to not know me, but you do know of me. So, in closing, I want great changes for the Guardian Angels. Changes that will provide a level of health insurance that the organization can afford for every full-time member who does not have a job with health benefits, on-going training education in basic law, police science tactics, and martial arts provided by professional certified instructors, and provide each member with future opportunity for advancement in upper leadership and management positions. If these suggestions, which are being used in corporate businesses, the military, law enforcement and security companies, are working for them; then why not correctly implement them within the Guardian Angels.
As a GA Alumnus, I will help any GA member in need! The Truth Will Always Set You Free!
Everything the degenerate liar and media shyster is, comes wrapped up in his role as "president and founder" of the GA. He is president for life, El Presidente with a beret!! He is scared to have an open election among the members for if he loses that's it for him. He won't be anyone or anything!! Let him free and open elections for the head of his cult. What is the fearless "crimefighter" afraid of? Only by cleaning house can the members correct the terrible situation that exists!! Join Operation No Angels and say good bye to El Presidente for Life with a beret!
Bonilla, if you want all these changes to take place, why are you just an alumnus and not a member? I hear all these people saying, the Angels should do this or that. Well, you might want to join first. And Curtis Sliwa is being misrepresented as a poster here. He would never post here. Bonilla, would you volunteer for your neighborhood watch if you had to pay for health insurance? Would your neighborhood watch exist if it had to raise $1000 per member per year for health insurance??? The original idea of the Angels is NOBODY OWES YOU ANYTHING! VOLUNTEER, SHUT UP DO SOMETHING BESIDE COMPLAINING AND WHINING ABOUT OTHER PEOPLE NOT DOING ANYTHING! You want to clean up your neighborhood? Put on a red beret, go out and recruit, patrol twice a week. I don’t agree with Curtis on some of what he does or says on the radio, but he has never promised me anything or made me feel obligated to do anything I didn’t want to do. In fact, most chapters are more like franchises. Curtis doesn’t micromanage every single chapter. There are regional leaders who help set up chapters, traing, offer support, but it’s the Chapter Leader who should make or break a chapter. If a chapter fails, it’s usually a moron who can’t get his head out of his a** and then blames Curtis for not sending him more money or assistance. What problems in the Angels are we talking about here Albert? You don’t even patrol. If I said the NYPD is corrupt and I have a list of problems, and I’m not even a friggin NYPD cop, wouldn’t you call me an idiot? All you get is girlie gossip from alumni Angels who haven’t even patrolled in ten years. They’re like old women who have nothing better to do than bitch and get all nostalgic about 1985. Yeah, I could try to get a neighborhood watch together to clean up my neighborhood but nobody would join and the media would ignore us, and there would be no regional support or set training standards. OR I could be a Guardian Angel. I don’t care what the f*** an Angel in Illinois said about an Angel in Nevada or Japan or Mars. I go out on patrol, stop criminals, clean up my town, and I’m glad I have the 31 years of expertise of the Angels to back me up. Plus, people approach us and say, Hey Guardian Angels, I know you guys, can I join, can I help? I do like the fact that this website allows me to post and argue back, although now I anticipate my a** being reamed out. Okay, go for it…
To use a term such as “Fire Fist Patrol” is the language of a cult!!!! He has created his own terms just a Scientology has. This is how the head of a cult operates: it revolves around him, he has his own special language, he uses members to spy on, and discipline others with his consent so that that they gain his approval. He has used and played off one against the other. This way he is not the centre of attention as to his actions. He is rolling in money, yet he calls himself a “volunteer”. The truth is no one needs him except for Renfield Fuentes!!! Like a little lapdog he seeks his master’s approval. As long as he continues to run it as a cult of personality, you have no hope. Until his lapdogs are thrown out, it will be the same old crap!!! Be aware, his is a coniving manipulator, and he won’t go so easily. Join Operation No Angels and get rid of El Presidente for life!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
If a license were required to tell the truth, Curtis Sliwa would need a learner’s permit!
Yes, “VOLUNTEER”!!!!! So how come he has used the GA to make a fortune while everyone else gets absolutely doing nothing???? Is he in it for altruistic motives, or to get fame, and money?? Not the former, but the latter!!!! He’s parlayed his bullshit stories, character assinations, and publicity into a multi media Empire of Lies!!!!! Why isn’t what is good for El Presidente for Life good enough for the suckers who’ve been conned by the media shyster and degnerate liar? They’re nothing more than serfs who are not sophisticated to understand that this Harold Hill has sold them a bill of goods!!!! Notice once again, when a Renfield answers, he doesn’t answer any of the points brought up!!! Instead he resorts to old tired cliches. Fact is, he made himself Presidente for Life to hold on the money he’s made off of the labours of others. If he has 120 chapters in 12 countries, then how does he have time for his crap radio show, parades, speeches, endorsements, seminars ect? Sam Walton is directly invovled with Walmart, he’s not running around with other engagements like this degenerate liar. What about the “whore bashers” who used to beat up prostitutes on the West Side? How come no GA is answering that? It’s all a Potamkin Village made up to look like a legitimate endeavour, but in reality is a cult of personality!!!!!! Get wise, get him out, and reform the cult into a legitimate group. Join Operation No Angels and impeach El Presidente for Life!!!!!!
When corresponding with “3rd rail”, I realized that the man has deep, deep personal issues to resolve. He is so stupid and ignorant, like a child, that he actually thinks that Ray Taylor, aka The Big Boss Man professional wrestler was actually a GA!!!!!! WOW!!!!!! What an absolute moron!!!! The degerate liar and media shyster SOLD the rights to use the name, GA to a pro wrestler for $$$$$$!!! This came about when Taylor left the WWE and went to the NWA. Wrestlers do this all the time. Yet Fuentes is so stooooopid that he actually thinks that the videos of Taylor being “trained” and “tested” to become a GA are for real!!!!!! So here you have why El Presidente for Life has him as his Renfield. You have to be an ignoramus to swallow the lies of this media shyster. And what does that say about his “respect” for his followers? The name of the GA is sold out to make him a buck and get on tv. What does that have to do with “crimefighting”, or anything related to it? That is who heads his cult!!!! A Harold HIll, who sells lies and fake promises. Who would want to be proud to be in the GA with this media shyster and con artist running it? And were the GA who were in the videos at wrestling matches PAID by the media shyster for showing up? Or did he tell them another bullshit story of which he’s an expert!!! He GOT PAID, why not them? As for Mike “Renfield” is he really so stupid as to believe that story, that Taylor became a GA? Why because he wore the clown outfit? Okay, Renfield, then you have to believe that he was a southern chain gang guard, and that his outfit that he wore in the WWE was REAL!!!!!!! Stop El Presidente for LIFE, Join Operation No Angels and put some honesty, if there ever was in it, back in the GA!!!!!!!! Oh, and get “3rd rail” some much needed help and new mixes, they stink also!!!!!!!
Fuentes actually believes that wrestling is real!!! He has videos of Ray Taylor on "patrol". The "patrol" was part of his act at the WCW wrestling!!!!! It was done on the back lot at Universal City Studios in Fla where the WCW matches were taped before a live studio audience!!!! Now, the "patrol" was fake, Fuentes is a moron, and El Presidente for life was part of an act. For an admitted degenerate liar, is there any difference between wrestling and his phony crime reports? How can anyone be part of a cult whose leader sells out their trust for a buck and to get on tv? When will a member step up and answer said questions instead of making excuses and attacking those who are honest in their citicism? Join Operation No Angels and send El Presidente for Life on a one way ticket to Pallookaville!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
To Darren Recon:
I used my real name, so please use your real when addressing me, is that fine with you?
I am a man of 48 years, and I will not disrespect you or anyone on this response list.
First, let me bring the truth into light. Yet, as many Alumnus GAs have long been out of the active 24/7 patrol mode, they by no means have lost touch of what the it is to be a Guardian Angel. The alumnus that you are complaining about are indeed former active Guardian Angels, which are still members a the Guardian Angels who are not required to perform full patrol functions, but act as advisors, mentors, trainers, and keepers of the core values that the Guardian Angels were founded upon. Many of us GA Alumnus have grown in our years through our past GA experience and contribution that has taken many of us into the professional career areas of employment. You ask why we are not active?
The reasons are our full-time employment, making time to work with full-time GA members, and not being given the opportunity to “correctly” train our GAs.
I have offered my training on numerous accounts to the New York Chapter, with the replies of excuses, laziness, of not allowing such training to take place periodically.
As a active police officer in my 17 years of service with the NYPD, I am a certified police academy instructor who has offered to teach our Guardian Angels in NYC, courses in police street tactics, counter terrorism, COBRA/WMD, emergency management, fraudulent IDs, gang violence, and others too many to list. I’ve seen our NYC GAs for some, carrying handcuffs- not authorized to do so. There are GAs who are making civilian arrests without the proper legal training. You have to have a working understanding of the law, and of arrest procedures. There are GAs who are bragging about the number of arrest made as though they were trophies. I don’t brag on the numerious arrests I’ve made as a cop, its not professional. There are certain reports that GAs have violated the misuse of physical force that has openned a hugh legal can of worms. Am I striking a nerve here? Without “certifiable” legal training, who is going to pay the legal fees when a GA member breakes the very laws we are to enforce?
I am still waiting on Curtis to reply on on letter that I email to him last November on how I want to best serve our organization; the Alliance of Guardian Angels.
Here is the original letter I emailed to Curtis:
This letter is dated November of 2009.
It is to my understanding that the GA Alumni are not in operation anymore or that there is no longer a current Alumni Director at the helm.
I have always supported the Guardian Angels and its endeavor to continue to protect others who cannot protect themselves. What troubles me that you have not given me the opportunity to really know you and to work alongside you. I joined the GA in 1980, and became an alumnus in 1997.
Though I was not a fulltime member of the GA, I was at the most serving my country in the U.S. Army during 1982 to 1991. In 1990, I was serving as a sworn peace officer for the State of New York on Roosevelt Island till 1994. In February of 1994, I entered the NYPD police academy and now I am close to my 16th year anniversary. My wife of 13 years of marriage and I are ordained deacons in the Christian faith at Calvary Christian Fellowship in the Bronx. I have been teaching within the NYPD’s Police Academy’s Specialized Training Section for 8 years and I teach theological studies at my church as well.
Curtis, I have served my country, served my state and still serving my city as I continue to live a life serving God. Many members of the Guardian Angels throughout the U.S. and the World know of me and the mention of me, not just because of my membership with the GAs, but what I am currently doing with my life now. They have all been inspired by how the old time members have grown in their lives because of their humbled beginnings in the GA. The Guardian Angels look up to you, me, Arnald and the other old members, because they see into their future of what they too can become through serving in the Guardian Angels as they serve the fine people of this country and the world.
All I ask and Arnald knows my heart for the Guardian Angels, is to work somewhere within the GA to teach and train our members in specific areas of better serving and protecting the communities they patrol.
I thank you for allowing me to become a member of the Guardian Angels when Kenneth Trent brought me to you, for placing me in the Wing Chung patrol, to help the Fire Fist patrol to work together and putting Sharon Coleman and I together has a unit to combat corruption in GA patrols who were suspected in violating GA rules of conduct while patrolling the subway system. I know you remember this, yet you act as though you do not know me when you see me at certain GA events.
Thank you Curtis, and let me serve along side of you, and may God continue to bless you and your family. God Bless You!
So, please Darren Recon, don’t think I don’t desire to contribute, since patrolling is not possible for me, but offering to train out GA’s is my priceless gift that I can offer.
May God Bless You and Keep You Safe.
3rd Rate, the hip hop flop, is a stooge and idiot who doesn't want face the facts. He uses personal attacks like his Fuehrer to discredit people who dare to question the perfidy of the media shyster and degenerate liar. You can say all you want to about this site, moron, but the facts don't change and never will. When you admit that you entrapped taggers then you can talk. You have ruined the lives of young people in Chicago and are known as a snitch. I didn't say it, someone in Chicago that knows you said it!!!! A snitch is the lowest of the low. Especially one who tells kid to break the law!!! Some "CRIMEFIGHTER", some GA!!! Some stooge!!! Join Operation Angels and put an end to the lies and corruption in the GA!!!!!
Well I guess it's my turn to interject into this topic of Wing Chung, and so I want to start off by saying that this Adam Kratt person has it backwards by saying Wing Chung has created videos to attack Angels that have devoted their lives as 24 hour Angels and belittles other Angels in a way to gather attention to himself which is actually just a smoke screen to keep people from seeing the truth about Curtis and the improprieties within the organization.
As far as the number of recruit's he has made and how many patrols Wing Chung has made , & all that stuff about what belt he really is, is irrelevant, the fact remains Wing Chung was a loyal 30 year member and has resigned, that in itself is like waving a big red flag and should have people wondering why?
Anytime anyone speaks out against anything Curtis or the organization has done or is doing you can bet Curtis will try to disassociate himself along with many other from that person, I have seen it 1st hand as an Alumni member I too have been defamed and slandered against by Sliwa's henchmen, this is how Curtis treat's his members with accusations of being a poor angel, I mean C'mon we aren't kids anymore Curtis, were grown men and women who know the difference between right and wrong and what your doing and have been doing all these years is WRONG!
Here is something for everyone to think about, The Guardian Angels is a non profit organization that is funded through donations offered by the public, well why has only Curtis Sliwa been profiting from it? He is not the sole founder of the group like he claims to be.
Why is it Curtis lives in a Plush Manhattan condo while those who patrol for him are living in deplorable run down buildings that should be condemned (speaking of those who are 24-7 angels who live in the H.Q.'s throughout the US and abroad) ? Why is there no watchdog group looking into the finances of the group and my biggest question has always been has anyone thought to look up Curtis's income tax records on those donations he uses for his own personal use?
Ask Curtis about the time he tried to disassociate himself from Illye Lichenberg aka Bam Bam from N.J. when back in June 1988 was hit in the head with a bottle and stabbed in the face while supposedly being out on patrol on restaurant row, why? Because Curtis didn't want to come out of his own pocket, it's all about greed and whats in it for Curtis and the fact is Bam Bam came back to the HQ took off his colors and went back out to the row as we called it that night to fight a drug dealer one on one because he too knew that if he assaulted the dealer as an angel in colors Curtis would cut all ties with him so he went as a civilian, only after he was injured Curtis spun the story to the media that we all were out on patrol when the altercation took place it's this type hype that Curtis does for media attention and if it were not for the media and a microphone in Curtis Sliwa's face when all this went down asking Curtis who was going to pay for this kids medical attention, Curtis would have dropped Bam Bam like a dirty shirt.
I believe in the angels and why it was created because I was one but I don't agree with the way in which it has become today in defaming former and rank & file members and where Curtis takes all the credit and the minute you say "boo" about anything you're made to look like the bad guy….
Wing Chung is not the bad guy nor were Jeff & Jerry Monroe aka the Twin Dragons, nor was Willie Diaz aka Swan, nor was I, the list goes on and on…..
(Speaking to all Guardian Angels both Alumni and Current)
Now is the time to take a step back and pull the blinders off your face that Curtis has put there and re-evaluate what is really going on here within the organization and how it's leader Curtis Sliwa acts as it's dictator.
Change is never easy but as a whole it can be done, just remember
"None of us are as strong as "ALL OF US"
Cowboy, NYC Alumni Angel 1986-89
Yes, Tom, I have to agree! The degenerate liar and media shyster, Curtis Sliwa has run the group like his own personal kingdom! Tell me, sir, when was the last time he held a fair and open election for president of the GA? He always bills himself as “founder and president of the GA”. Who then elected him and when? Who was the other candidate, if there was one? Why not demand from him a fair election, without a stooge like 3rd Rail to run against him? Who elects the board of directors of the GA? Does he appoint them as his stooges? Did you know that when he wears the beret and jacket to speak if he gets paid then that money has to go to members? Isn’t it supposed to be “non profit”? So how then does he make a profit off the name, GA? He has milked the GA for decades getting rich, while you guys are treated like his serfs! He wore a Burger King outfit to annoy Andrew Cuomo, calling him, “King Cuomo” and “CuomoLot”. But isn’t he treating and being treated like a king? He’s a millionair thanks to your labours, yes, it’s good to be the King, right media shyster and degenerate liar, Curtis? The GA should be renamed, “SliwaLot”, or “LieAlot” for it’s his kingdom! Don’t dare to speak out against the King, or he’ll banish you from his kingdom! Don’t worry, Operation No Angels is moving against this king of SliwaLot, and we’ll depose him!!!
THANK YOU COWBOY SPOKEN LIKE A TRUE MAN AND A TRUE ANGEL OF HONOR ,,ANGELS 4 EVER WING CHUNG,,, T.W.S
The Guardian angels wasn't solely created to make arrest's or to deter crime, there were times we carried homeless people on our backs to shelter's in NYC during very cold night's who were unable to walk, being an angel was and is so much more it's about helping your fellow man to give a helping hand when someone was in need. They can try to discredit Wing Chung and even try to assassinate his character and they can take away his and every other angel's color's but they can't take away what's in our heart 's or our drive. You don't have to wear a red beret or an angel T-Shirt to actually be a Guardian Angel even after I left the group I still to this day find myself helping people in many different situations because of my belief in the Dare to Care motto it's something inside a person something no one can strip you of not even Curtis Sliwa.
Cowboy 1986-89
You are so welcome Wing Chung, & you are also correct Frank, but in all fairness to Curtis, Curtis was elected spokesperson for the group not it’s founder as told by Jeff & Jerry Monroe and those in the group at that time simply because he was “White” and because he was “The Manager” of the McDonald’s where Curtis worked, I’m not sure of all the specific’s of it, but as told by Jeff & Jerry Monroe. Curtis was never elected as it’s founder. The only thing Curtis was founder of was the Magnificent 13 and it was only after his Curtis’s guy’s decided to switch over to the Shaolin Protector’s that Curtis got together with Jeff & Jerry Monroe to salvage and merge the two groups as one thus they became the “Guardian Angels” only who do you think at that time would the community listen too or take seriously? Certainly wasn’t going to be 2 black kids from the south Bronx so they decided it would be Curtis, only Curtis over the years forgot either on purpose or just got caught up in the lie that he was it’s group’s original founder, Curtis seen early on the money to be made in the group by way of donations between that and the fame of it, it was like a drug to him and he was hooked on it, only problem was Jeff & Jerry Monroe believed somewhere down the road Curtis would set the record straight but as time went on Curtis continued to lie even to them yet never told the truth.
You know Frank when you tell one lie, you’ll tell another to cover up the first and so on and so on it’s become a way of life for Curtis, my opinion on it is,Curtis took advantage of Jeff & Jerry Monroe and even to this day takes advantage of every member that is or was a member of the group. I am well aware of how his machine works as you and many other people are. He hides behind this facade that he is there to help the community but tell me why is it he is setting up these chapter’s in gated suburban communities or in areas he know will bring in big dividends? Because Curtis has realized early on that he could profit from the organization.
I have been out of the loop for quite some time but have been in contact with many angels that I once knew throughout the years yet many will not be found on my facebook page because they know how the machine works, within the organization just like in religious sect’s there are spies, 3rdrail as you know is Curtis’s top spy or as I like to refer to him Curtis’s whipping boy and they are feeding information back to King “Curtis “Crock” Sleeze Wah” because Curtis will stop at nothing to make sure no one interfere’s with his way of life in any shape or form.
These dilemma’s in which angels face today are the very same we faced many years ago, many of us including myself didn’t think it was worth the fight but then again we didn’t have the internet or the means to rally support and get the job done, my, my how things have changed and I personally think now is the time to stand and “Fight for Right” The Angels of today are not the Angels of the past although we are right there with you when I say we’ve got your backs it’s up to you to only better your organization. YOU HAVE A VOICE AND YOU HAVE A CHOICE MAKE IT WISELY, YOUR FUTURE AND THE FUTURE OF THE ANGELS AFTER YOU DEPEND ON IT……
Cowboy 1986-89
There’s a stench from Sliwa’s ass and a stench from his toes. If you look at their tax returns (Guardian Angels) on the internet you have to wonder where the money goes. There has never ever been a single patrol of the Guardian Angels in Hell’s Kitchen where their headquarters were except as a “publicity stunt” accompanied by camera. The little dirtbags harassed women, the homeless and veterans who lived in the community. They were never known by any other name than “the panhandling pissants”. Curtis Sliwa is a simy fake, phoney and fraud. Carries “homeless people on their backs”. Gimme a break. Beating homeless people up for fun by the vermin in red. That I have seen. And they robbing from the dead and stole emergency supplies at the World Trade Center after September 11th and were banned from the site by the NYFD and the Port Authority Police. The Guardian Angels are useless as a screen door in a submarine. The organization is a malignancy.
Sifu Monroe: Hey Frank, I found out that these people speaking up about Tyrone Bonds were telling the truth. He has also spoken bad about you. So please watch your back about Wing Chung. You can call me if you want and I'll fill you in. This guy is nothing but Trouble. I see why they threw his butt out of the GA's and I would have to if I was running things back then. My brother and others told me about him, and now his own T.W.S. guys are talking about him how there not going to stand by him. I have also had a serious altercation with him. This man is nothing more than an arrogant fool and a media hound as well. And degenerate lair like Sliwa. I think WG learned from the best.
this why i do not want to work with people like this,,, and i don’t support t THESE GUYS guardian angel story ABOUT HOW THEY BE CAME CO FOUNDERS,,because of how he jerry Monroe played his self at tws ,,looks like the same thing he did to Curtis,,and if jerry thinks that makes him co founder he has l lot growing up to do I’m fed up with this guy using Jesus ever time you turn around what Hippocrates,,that’s why he was KICK OUT OF TWS BY ME,,THIS IS WHY NO ONE WILL WORK WITH HIM YOU SEE HE HAS NOTHING BUT HIMSELF ,,HE HAS TO GET SOMEONE ELSE TO BE THERE FOR HIM ,,TWS WILL NOT
Well I just want to say I told you so about working with Losers who obviously had their own agenda when it came to your cause. What have they done in 30 years beside wait for some miraculous opportunity to come their way. One is an illiterate psychopath and the other is just nuts. What have they done but become growths on your balls at this point.
Yes I am rubbing it in because you believed that jack ass instead of me.