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		<title>By: Keyes Launches "Natural Born" Lawsuit On Obama &#124; The Right Perspective</title>
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		<dc:creator>Keyes Launches "Natural Born" Lawsuit On Obama &#124; The Right Perspective</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Nov 2008 08:13:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] the lead of Democrat activist lawyer Phil Berg, former US presidential candidate Alan Keyes has filed his own lawsuit questioning president-elect [...]</description>
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		<title>By: SCOTUS Tells Obama To Produce Birth Certificate &#124; The Right Perspective</title>
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		<dc:creator>SCOTUS Tells Obama To Produce Birth Certificate &#124; The Right Perspective</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Nov 2008 22:27:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] lawsuit questioning Barack Obama&#8217;s qualification to run for US President based on his &#8220;natural born&#8221; status has entered a do-or-die phase after the Supreme Court has ordered Obama to produce [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] lawsuit questioning Barack Obama&#8217;s qualification to run for US President based on his &#8220;natural born&#8221; status has entered a do-or-die phase after the Supreme Court has ordered Obama to produce [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Ohio &#34;Natural Born&#34; Obama Suit Thrown Out &#124; The Right Perspective</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ohio &#34;Natural Born&#34; Obama Suit Thrown Out &#124; The Right Perspective</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Nov 2008 17:24:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] suit&#8217;s dismissal follows that of Philadelphia lawyer Philip J. Berg&#8217;s original &#8220;natural born&#8221; lawsuit on Oct. 21. Berg is preparing for an appeal to the Supreme Court. Six similar &#8220;natural [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] suit&#8217;s dismissal follows that of Philadelphia lawyer Philip J. Berg&#8217;s original &#8220;natural born&#8221; lawsuit on Oct. 21. Berg is preparing for an appeal to the Supreme Court. Six similar &#8220;natural [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Obama Grandma Audio: "Yes, He Was Born In Kenya" &#124; The Right Perspective</title>
		<link>http://www.therightperspective.org/2008/10/26/obama-natural-born-citizen-suit-headed-for-supreme-court/comment-page-1/#comment-141</link>
		<dc:creator>Obama Grandma Audio: "Yes, He Was Born In Kenya" &#124; The Right Perspective</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Nov 2008 12:27:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] based on his &#8220;natural born&#8221; status. A judge dismissed the case and Berg plans to appeal to the Supreme Court. Obama&#8217;s own &#8220;Fight The Smears&#8221; campaign website has confirmed Obama was a Kenyan [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] based on his &#8220;natural born&#8221; status. A judge dismissed the case and Berg plans to appeal to the Supreme Court. Obama&#8217;s own &#8220;Fight The Smears&#8221; campaign website has confirmed Obama was a Kenyan [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Gideon</title>
		<link>http://www.therightperspective.org/2008/10/26/obama-natural-born-citizen-suit-headed-for-supreme-court/comment-page-1/#comment-111</link>
		<dc:creator>Gideon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Oct 2008 11:52:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The issue of Senator Barack Obama and Senator John McCain&#8217;s status as &#8220;natural born citizens&#8221; is on the one hand a matter of law, and another a matter of fact. As for myself, I will be greatly satisfied and consider the entire matter settled if the Supreme Court or the United States Congress would kindly rule on the issue prior to Election Day.  
 
If it is determined that the winner of this election is not qualified for the position, then they will be forced to step aside and the next four years will have the Speaker of the House as the acting President, wasting millions of votes and leaving the voices of the American people unheard. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The issue of Senator Barack Obama and Senator John McCain&rsquo;s status as &ldquo;natural born citizens&rdquo; is on the one hand a matter of law, and another a matter of fact. As for myself, I will be greatly satisfied and consider the entire matter settled if the Supreme Court or the United States Congress would kindly rule on the issue prior to Election Day. </p>
<p>If it is determined that the winner of this election is not qualified for the position, then they will be forced to step aside and the next four years will have the Speaker of the House as the acting President, wasting millions of votes and leaving the voices of the American people unheard.</p>
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		<title>By: Hawaii Gov Seals Obama Birth Certificate &#124; The Right Perspective</title>
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		<dc:creator>Hawaii Gov Seals Obama Birth Certificate &#124; The Right Perspective</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Oct 2008 03:24:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Judge Barry Surrick threw out the original &#8220;natural born&#8221; lawsuit filed by Democrat activist lawyer Philip J. Berg [...]</description>
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		<title>By: dover</title>
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		<dc:creator>dover</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 26 Oct 2008 22:06:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, something is wrong or else Obama and the DNC wouldn&#039;t be running scared on this issue.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, something is wrong or else Obama and the DNC wouldn&#8217;t be running scared on this issue.</p>
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		<title>By: Sue Deaunym</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sue Deaunym</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 26 Oct 2008 22:04:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So, folks, I take it this link

http://www.usconstitution.net/consttop_citi.html

is in error?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So, folks, I take it this link</p>
<p><a href="http://www.usconstitution.net/consttop_citi.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.usconstitution.net/consttop_citi.html</a></p>
<p>is in error?</p>
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		<title>By: NewsGuy</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 26 Oct 2008 20:16:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Actually, Sue, the only prerequisite you cite that could possibly apply in the Berg vs. Obama, et als, case is #1.  And there is where things get sticky.  Because, between Mr. Berg&#039;s case and the assertions/investigations/reports of others, the following allegations have been made:

1.  Posted on Obama’s website is a “certification of live birth” that purports to prove his birth on American soil, but the certificate’s number has been marked out and it carries no official seal to legitimize it.  

2.  Obama and his half-sister have named two different hospitals as the site of his birth in Honolulu.

3.  Obama’s grandmother proudly tells about being present at his birth in Kenya.  Other family members also allege he was born there.
 
4.  There is a hospital record in Kenya documenting the birth of “Barack Hussein Obama, Jr.,” and there is no record of his birth at either of the two hospitals in Honolulu named by Obama and his half-sister.

5.  Three separate forensics experts have studied the certificate proffered by the Obama campaign and have concluded that it is a forgery.  It is suggested that his half-sister&#039;s certificate was used as a template and altered (via PhotoShop or some such program) to create one for Barack -- hence the hiding of the certificate number (which could be traced directly back to her record) and the absence of an official seal. 

6.  Alternatively, it is suggested that Obama’s mother flew back to Hawaii and filed an affidavit attesting to his birth there, resulting in the recording of a false birth certificate.  (While the law provided for such American birth certificates/citizenship in the case of a child born to an American citizen in a foreign county, Obama’s mother was ineligible to file that affidavit and request American citizenship for her son because she was not old enough at the time of his birth.  Hence, to make him an American citizen and file a birth certificate in Hawaii, she would have had to falsely allege he was born on American soil.)

7.  If Obama is found to have not been born in America, he is ineligible as candidate for president because he is not a natural born citizen of the United States.

8.  Even if Obama were born in the United States, his citizenship was expatriated when his mother married a man from Indonesia when Barack was six years old and relocated herself and her son there.  There is a rumor that this man, Lolo Suetoro, adopted Barack, and this is given credence by the fact that he was entered into public school in Indonesia as &quot;Barry Soetoro&quot; and his citizenship on school records is listed as Indonesian.

9.  Obama&#039;s mother sent him back to America when he was ten, and after she divorced her Indonesian husband, she too returned to Hawaii.  She could have, if she had wanted, regained her citizenship (and by extension, her son’s) by going through the legal proceeding to do so, but she apparently never did.  Alternatively, Barack himself could have reclaimed his US citizenship when he turned 18, but he failed to do so.

10.  The idea that Barack is a legal citizen of Indonesia is further bolstered by the allegation that when he traveled to Pakistan in 1981, when he was 20, he traveled on an Indonesian, not an American, passport.

11. Again, if Obama is found to have lost his citizenship and has done nothing to be repatriated, then he is ineligible to be president of the United States.

12. Case filings also point out that, even if he is a legal citizen of the United States, another requirement may bar Obama’s eligibility to be president.  Under the Constitution, one who holds dual citizenship or multiple citizenships with a foreign county (or countries) is not eligible for the presidency.  Since Barack may be a legal citizen of Kenya and/or may be a legal citizen of Indonesia, he may therefore be barred from running for and serving as president.

13. These filings cite reporters and investigations and documentation to back up the claims made. (Independent of these cases, it has even been rumored that Obama will not release his college records because he may have indicated that he was a citizen of another country on his admissions documents.)

14. This all sounds so crazy, but the allegations and legal arguments presented seem compelling.  You would think that Obama could have filed the proof (i.e., a certified birth certificate with record number and official seal; opening of his passport records, college records, etc.) and defeated this civil action handily.  But instead of just clearing these matters up, legal representatives of Obama and the DNC sought to dismiss and/or delay the proceedings until the election is over.  Their motion to dismiss the case says that “a voter does not have standing to challenge the qualifications of a candidate for President of the United States.”  And apparently the judge has agreed.  I am greatly offended by that idea and hope that the Supreme Court will take this matter in hand -- and quickly!

&lt;i&gt;This post and the previous one were written by &quot;gshiriewestfall&quot; who sent me the text via an e-mail response.&lt;/i&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually, Sue, the only prerequisite you cite that could possibly apply in the Berg vs. Obama, et als, case is #1.  And there is where things get sticky.  Because, between Mr. Berg&#8217;s case and the assertions/investigations/reports of others, the following allegations have been made:</p>
<p>1.  Posted on Obama’s website is a “certification of live birth” that purports to prove his birth on American soil, but the certificate’s number has been marked out and it carries no official seal to legitimize it.  </p>
<p>2.  Obama and his half-sister have named two different hospitals as the site of his birth in Honolulu.</p>
<p>3.  Obama’s grandmother proudly tells about being present at his birth in Kenya.  Other family members also allege he was born there.</p>
<p>4.  There is a hospital record in Kenya documenting the birth of “Barack Hussein Obama, Jr.,” and there is no record of his birth at either of the two hospitals in Honolulu named by Obama and his half-sister.</p>
<p>5.  Three separate forensics experts have studied the certificate proffered by the Obama campaign and have concluded that it is a forgery.  It is suggested that his half-sister&#8217;s certificate was used as a template and altered (via PhotoShop or some such program) to create one for Barack &#8212; hence the hiding of the certificate number (which could be traced directly back to her record) and the absence of an official seal. </p>
<p>6.  Alternatively, it is suggested that Obama’s mother flew back to Hawaii and filed an affidavit attesting to his birth there, resulting in the recording of a false birth certificate.  (While the law provided for such American birth certificates/citizenship in the case of a child born to an American citizen in a foreign county, Obama’s mother was ineligible to file that affidavit and request American citizenship for her son because she was not old enough at the time of his birth.  Hence, to make him an American citizen and file a birth certificate in Hawaii, she would have had to falsely allege he was born on American soil.)</p>
<p>7.  If Obama is found to have not been born in America, he is ineligible as candidate for president because he is not a natural born citizen of the United States.</p>
<p>8.  Even if Obama were born in the United States, his citizenship was expatriated when his mother married a man from Indonesia when Barack was six years old and relocated herself and her son there.  There is a rumor that this man, Lolo Suetoro, adopted Barack, and this is given credence by the fact that he was entered into public school in Indonesia as &#8220;Barry Soetoro&#8221; and his citizenship on school records is listed as Indonesian.</p>
<p>9.  Obama&#8217;s mother sent him back to America when he was ten, and after she divorced her Indonesian husband, she too returned to Hawaii.  She could have, if she had wanted, regained her citizenship (and by extension, her son’s) by going through the legal proceeding to do so, but she apparently never did.  Alternatively, Barack himself could have reclaimed his US citizenship when he turned 18, but he failed to do so.</p>
<p>10.  The idea that Barack is a legal citizen of Indonesia is further bolstered by the allegation that when he traveled to Pakistan in 1981, when he was 20, he traveled on an Indonesian, not an American, passport.</p>
<p>11. Again, if Obama is found to have lost his citizenship and has done nothing to be repatriated, then he is ineligible to be president of the United States.</p>
<p>12. Case filings also point out that, even if he is a legal citizen of the United States, another requirement may bar Obama’s eligibility to be president.  Under the Constitution, one who holds dual citizenship or multiple citizenships with a foreign county (or countries) is not eligible for the presidency.  Since Barack may be a legal citizen of Kenya and/or may be a legal citizen of Indonesia, he may therefore be barred from running for and serving as president.</p>
<p>13. These filings cite reporters and investigations and documentation to back up the claims made. (Independent of these cases, it has even been rumored that Obama will not release his college records because he may have indicated that he was a citizen of another country on his admissions documents.)</p>
<p>14. This all sounds so crazy, but the allegations and legal arguments presented seem compelling.  You would think that Obama could have filed the proof (i.e., a certified birth certificate with record number and official seal; opening of his passport records, college records, etc.) and defeated this civil action handily.  But instead of just clearing these matters up, legal representatives of Obama and the DNC sought to dismiss and/or delay the proceedings until the election is over.  Their motion to dismiss the case says that “a voter does not have standing to challenge the qualifications of a candidate for President of the United States.”  And apparently the judge has agreed.  I am greatly offended by that idea and hope that the Supreme Court will take this matter in hand &#8212; and quickly!</p>
<p><i>This post and the previous one were written by &#8220;gshiriewestfall&#8221; who sent me the text via an e-mail response.</i></p>
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		<title>By: NewsGuy</title>
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		<dc:creator>NewsGuy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 26 Oct 2008 20:13:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sue Deaunym,

You incorrectly relate the qualifications for American citizenship.  In number 7, which she cites as being the &quot;pertinent one in Obama&#039;s case&quot;), says:  &quot;Any one born outside the United States, if one parent is an alien and as long as the other parent is a citizen of the U.S. who lived in the U.S. for at least five years (with military and diplomatic service included in this time).&quot;  The section of the U.S. Code you cite actually says (emphasis added):  &quot;a person born before noon (Eastern Standard Time) May 24, 1934, outside the limits and jurisdiction of the United States of an alien father and a mother who is a citizen of the United States who, prior to the birth of such person, had resided in the United States.&quot;  So, obviously, this provision does not apply to Obama.  (I don&#039;t know whether you purposely left this out or was just mistaken).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sue Deaunym,</p>
<p>You incorrectly relate the qualifications for American citizenship.  In number 7, which she cites as being the &#8220;pertinent one in Obama&#8217;s case&#8221;), says:  &#8220;Any one born outside the United States, if one parent is an alien and as long as the other parent is a citizen of the U.S. who lived in the U.S. for at least five years (with military and diplomatic service included in this time).&#8221;  The section of the U.S. Code you cite actually says (emphasis added):  &#8220;a person born before noon (Eastern Standard Time) May 24, 1934, outside the limits and jurisdiction of the United States of an alien father and a mother who is a citizen of the United States who, prior to the birth of such person, had resided in the United States.&#8221;  So, obviously, this provision does not apply to Obama.  (I don&#8217;t know whether you purposely left this out or was just mistaken).</p>
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